Soccer firms vs LA Street Gang

[psl007]

I think this is the right place for this but I need your guys help, I'm taking an online course called "The Game of Soccer and it's Impact on Society" and I need to collect other people's opinions about a certain topic and the question I have to ask is this:

In the game of soccer (Football) are soccer 'firms' viewed in the same way as a New York or LA street gang?



Cheers N Beers

[Danomite]

you´re talking about stuff like hooligans when you talk about firms? i am just asking to i get it right when i answer.

[werderpaddy]

i wanted to ask the same like dano.
and with gangs do you mean gangs like the bloods or crips?

so for example:

are hooligans from england viewed in the same way like the bloods or crips?

[psl007]

you´re talking about stuff like hooligans when you talk about firms? i am just asking to i get it right when i answer.

Yes to your question

i wanted to ask the same like dano.
and with gangs do you mean gangs like the bloods or crips?

so for example:

are hooligans from england viewed in the same way like the bloods or crips?

Cheers N Beers[/quote]

And Yes to your question

[nudge]

I wouldn't say so. Street gang's main purpose is financial gain, they're set out to make money first of all. While the "defending" of your own territory and the means of doing it might be somewhat similar, they're fundamentally different in terms of structure, organization and goals, I'd say.

[ChickenDeluxe]

I read the book called "the boys from the Mersey" which is about the firm/crew of the Liverpool side. I also read another book about hooligans as I wrote two articles about it for swiss magazines.
So I guess Phil is talking about organised hooligan firms such as the guys portraied in "Hoolingans".

What about gangs? I am not so familiar with that view. Only read "Freedom writers" which is close to the scene, I guess.

[PaulDoon]

Only just spotted this, I did a mini paper in Psychology on Football Fans (Hooligans).

In england the football hooliganism was penned The English Disease, at least up until the 80's. The most infamous incident I can think of at the minute is when the Millwall firm were rioting... it was either in or near Luton. (Bear with me) So far as being seen as a gang, the way it was handled would certainly point to them being seen as of similar stature to the crips or the bloods. If that's any help

[Beauie]

It doesn't only exist in England. There are probably firms all over the globe.

Rangers and Celtic might have the biggest rivalry in all of professional football. They are somewhat famous for their firms. There's a thing between the Unionists and Republicans/Nationalists, and the Protestants and Catholics. I'd say most of them would be Unionists and Protestants at the same time or Republicans/Nationalists and Catholics at the same time, but there would be exceptions. At Rangers and Celtic games, one half of the park will be left to the other team's supporters, they don't like to have to put them together because of the trouble that it can create and has created in the past. My Grandpa has told me stories. Once he and his cousin went to a game, all I remember was that the Celtic supporters were coming and coming in fast, my Grandpa's cousin picked up my Grandpa and threw him under a parked car and told him to run; they didn't care how old you were. My Grandpa was slashed up by a Catholic razor gang when he was only a wee boy. They did live in the slums and at times I think the environment they were forced to live in (I don't think they had a choice like a lot of today's gang members probably would) was maybe more dangerous than the environments in LA with the gangs. This stuff does go deeper than just one team and another ~ there is a history and it probably dates back to before 'The Battle of the Boyne' in 1690.

I have not lived in either environment and unless somebody had lived in both, I think it's hard to say anything or compare the two.